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Richard Lim is the co-founder and host of the This American President podcast. He previously served at the White House, the Association of the U.S. Army, and George Washington’s Mount Vernon Estate. Richard has appeared as a commentator on C-SPAN's Washington Journal and will appear on the History Channel's upcoming documentary on President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In addition, Richard’s opinion editorials have appeared on The Heritage Foundation’s The Daily Signal, the Washington Examiner, RealClearHistory, and the History News Network.

Richard Lim obtained a master’s degree in public administration from Syracuse University’s Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs and a bachelor’s degree in history and political science from the University of California, San Diego.

Michael Neal is the co-founder and producer of the This American President podcast. He is responsible for the production and operations of the show. Professionally, Michael works as a construction consultant based in Washington, DC, where he also takes an active interest in visiting the region's many historical sites.

Michael Neal obtained a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology.